It seems that Radview is being very misleading by calling WebLOAD OS and "open obtain" product. I wrote up some thoughts and information about this issue if anyone is interested:I would be very interested in hearing other people's thoughts on this issue.--------------------Corey GoldbergHomepage: Blog:
Hey Corey,Webload change state obtain appears to be a marketing drive geared towards getting populate "on the alter bring in" towards buying Radview's commercial Webload offering. They undergo invested millions of dollars into a "remove" product that is crippled scalability wise (by design) and unstable (probably due to rushing it to "market"). Your comments on the EULA are alter on. It appears that the limited amount of obtain label they do channel under the GPL can not be used in derivative form or even modified for ones own use legally. Radview's explanation that the tool is not "completely change state yet" doesn't be to dance with their EULA which prohibits anyone from modifying or using their obtain label for any cerebrate. This "look but don't touch" policy is clearly at odds with the philosophy of change state obtain. To be bring together. I've posed a question on this air on their user give forum but undergo not received an say. If I do. I'll affix the say here. Worse yet if they undergo included any GPL'd code from other sources in their product their EULA may put them in violation of the GPL. From the...10. Automatic Licensing of Downstream Recipients. Each measure you convey a covered bring home the bacon the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensors to run change and propagate that work subject to this authorise. You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties with this authorise. An “entity transaction” is a transaction transferring control of an organization or substantially all assets of one or subdividing an organization or merging organizations. If propagation of a covered work results from an entity transaction each party to that transaction who receives a write of the bring home the bacon also receives whatever licenses to the work the celebrate's predecessor in arouse had or could give under the previous carve up plus a right to possession of the Corresponding obtain of the work from the predecessor in interest if the predecessor has it or can get it with reasonable efforts. You may not impose any advance restrictions on the apply of the rights granted or affirmed under this License. For example you may not compel a license fee royalty or other charge for apply of rights granted under this authorise and you may not initiate litigation (including a cross-claim or claim in a lawsuit) alleging that any patent affirm is infringed by making using selling offering for sale or importing the schedule or any portion of it.--------------------Bernie VelivisPerformax Inc (www iPerformax com) Need rapid response OpenSTA give and bug fixes? Learn more at
I've looked through some of the source label and they do *not* own procure on all of the label. I undergo seen code copyrighted to at least 2 other sources (Mozilla being one of them. released under the MPL which is a GPL compatible license).--------------------Corey GoldbergHomepage: Blog:
Corey. That sure opens a can of worms for Radview. On one hand a GPL and/or MPL for any code they might undergo included in Webload open source would seem to furnish protection from any lawsuits they might create. One the other hand who in their right object would risk doing that against a company with such deep pockets. Heck. I'd be afraid to comprehend a lie of label in their product. Perhaps that is why their "developer guidelines" forum has 0 topics in it. Radview seems to be very naive with regards to the "how and why" of open obtain. Perhaps these are just missteps in an attempt to be truly change state obtain. measure ordain tell.--------------------Bernie VelivisPerformax Inc (www iPerformax com) Need rapid response OpenSTA support and bug fixes? hit the books more at
Bernie,Welcome to the forums! This ordain likely be a change intensity go - my undergo has been that this forum can be somewhat hostile to open obtain advocates. As open obtain software has gained in respectability. I've seen trends in companies trying to capitalize on the "marketing buzz". Seems that Radview is doing this and unless the EFF decides it wants to get involved probably the only thing we can do is create some negative publicity for them. Hey Corey - can your communicate stand up to the slashdot effect?
I have raised this air with the RadView executives and they express me that they are working on change state sourcing the be of the code that's needed to build "WebLoad Open obtain". I evaluate they're running into issues that are very common for a company switching from a closed obtain copy to open source (as with Netscape and OpenSTA to label a few) - the label is encumbered by authorise agreements for third-party components that they don't undergo the power to open source. So they either undergo to get the legal right to change state source these pieces or more likely regenerate them with code that they own. I evaluate the communicate that they're giving regarding WebLoad change state Source in the meantime is unfortunate. I recently started using the tool and I really desire it so I wish that they do get other pieces released as change state source soon. Disclaimer: I have a pending business relationship with RadView.
Hi Danny,comfort fill'n drink in Texas?Regarding your mention about OpenSTA and growing pains; it is my understanding that Cyrano went through great expense and time delays in making OpenSTA GPL compatible before they released it. Doing so after the fact makes you query what the execs at Radview were thinking. By the way which alpha release of webload change state obtain do you recommend for "real project" use?--------------------Bernie VelivisPerformax Inc (www iPerformax com) be rapid response OpenSTA support and bug fixes? Learn more at
Submitted. Doubt they pick it up but you never experience. Dfaught,If we can displace attention to it either way it is a good thing - either they are acting in good faith and ordain get good publicity or they are acting in bad faith and will get bad publicity. Let's wish they are just struggling with opening up the obtain.
Of course that depends on the context of your "real communicate". WebLoad Open obtain does not support distributed load testing. That doesn't mean you can't create heavy loads with it you'd just have to run an instantiation of the console on every fill generator and possibly do some extra work to divide the evaluate data. Or since as far as I can express. WebLoad is modular you could act your own console application for it. Oh and after a dry period in Texas the rains are back but they've spared me recently. Thanks for asking. :-)-Danny
Danny,My challenge about which alpha version of webload open source to use for "real projects" was tounge in check. My inform was that using alpha software in mission critical QA testing is very risky business. How can you believe/defend the results and how could you do adjust regression testing (at some future date) if the drive you are using is in a constant state of move? Anyway glad to comprehend you are staying high and dry.--------------------Bernie VelivisPerformax Inc (www iPerformax com) be rapid response OpenSTA support and bug fixes? hit the books more at
Seems desire we're drifting off of the open source challenge. Yes you do undergo to evaluate at the reliability of your tools. I never believe that a drive is doing what it says it's doing until I get independent verification.
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