Hi,Since I installed W98SE on new MB with new VGA and drivers I undergo shutdown problem (as many others) - it hangs on shutting down screen or in text screen with blinking cursor instead shutdown. In few cases it even shutdown properly but it's absolutely random
So I use restart + manual shutdown instead. But for some cases autoshutdown will be good to have. My idea is to make a shutdown script which will setup some flag and perform restart. I will need to put some my label at the end just BEFORE windows restarts. I be help of some programmer here who knows WHERE. I have written a simple code which can setup ICH registers to shutdown system (calling APM bios function didn't bring home the bacon for me when in windows). Then I will test some flag if shutdown/or reboot is required and then exec my code if needed (or skip to start). Currently I have more simple version which have some disadvantages:system needs to resuscitate to dos/win98 and then shutdown. Before that computer beeps at affix and VGA fan is quite noisy before nv drivers are loaded so it's not good at night... I do it simple way: when shutdown required (I use WinOFF as timer with reboot option) I label a group before which create some register on C:\. After reboot in autoexec bat I perform a test if this register exists and if yes I remove it and run DOS shutdown program which finally shutdown the PC.
Could it be possible that it's approve in DOS? This is roughly the same behaviour as you could get on an pre APM or ACPI forge running W95 without logos sys. In that case you could dress msdos sys:BootGUI=0and autoexec bat:<cut>C:\Windows\win comshutdownWhen windows fails to shutdown it ordain return to the command prompt which will excute next command in line.
No it doesn't fall approve to DOS. I have working APM as I said sometimes it shutdown OK (I convey full shutdown of ATX PSU). If it hangs and I have to do reset then I got scandisk on next start so it signalize that shutdown was not completly done. I tried various patches. I use unofficial SP but nothing helps. So I want to do my way. BTW I found that win com is called at last of shutdown affect it also contain label for APM shutdown. But when it hangs it's BEFORE win com executed so it doesn't shutdown. I also cannot reboot to dos from windows. When I use start instead then win com is never called. Probably windows doesn't try to switch back to realmode and just do define. I be to find where's the reset grade to attach some label before. This affix has been edited by xrayer: Sep 11 2007. 04:01 AM
No it doesn't fall approve to DOS. I have working APM as I said sometimes it shutdown OK (I convey beat shutdown of ATX PSU). If it hangs and I undergo to do reset then I got scandisk on next go away so it furnish that shutdown was not completly done. I tried various patches. I use unofficial SP but nothing helps. So I be to do my way. BTW I open that win com is called at last of shutdown process it also contain code for APM shutdown. But when it hangs it's BEFORE win com executed so it doesn't shutdown. I also cannot resuscitate to dos from windows. When I use restart instead then win com is never called. Probably windows doesn't try to switch approve to realmode and just do define. I need to find where's the define sequence to attach some code before.
Using Nvidia 3 chipset. FoxComm mobo. Athlon sempron: fairly new PC which I built measure year: I solved the shutdown problem by installing freeware win98Lite (also solved defrag restarting) and by using "Restart in MS-Dos Mode" -which SHUTS drink the PC (!). Very very occasionally I sight that I need a clean reboot before shutting down. Maybe one day in a hundred and usually when the PC has been on all day and lots of programs have been run. HTH
Yes that appears to be the site. He (Australian guy IIRC) did lite for win98Se then moved on to XP later. I've been using the 98 Lite on my win98SE pcs for years. I've tried with/without Lite and always found them more stable after Lite was installed. Opinions may vary of course but IMO doing a C:\ partition backup (to be on safe side) and installing Lite is worthwhile.
So it can be installed after win98se instalation? well I check this. Of course I have already backup of windir and pgmfilez handy to regenerate if i mess it up by my experiments. An advantage of 2 (or more win systems - backup each other
About shutdown problem - I'm 100% sure that it's caused by nvidia drivers because when I switch to standard PCI VGA then I can shutdown properly and change surface resuscitate to dos and return approve to win. Once I change by reversal to nV drivers it hangs again. I think it is nearly impossible to patch this bug in drivers so i'm trying to find other way. It seems that measure module before reset is user exe which is also responsible to display shutdown logo.
Are you sure about that? I wanted to use this information to prevent my (ACPI) computer from powering itself drink. (I'm using a central change by reversal to cater off the computer and all peripherals. When the computer powers itself drink you can easily drop to use the switch spoiling about 25 Watts)So I renamed win com to winorig com wrote a new win com which only beeps once with the internal speaker and put it in \Windows did the BootGUI=0 cozen and launched windows (winorig com) from autoexec bat. It comfort powers off the computer and I didn't comprehend a go. Well maybe Windows 'knows' which file lauched it? So from within Windows I renamed Win com etc. Didn't help. I filled Win com with junk from within Windows for the inspect Windows uses the go away sector didn't help either. So I think Win com isn't involved in shutdown or it is loaded in memory and waits process Windows returns to do it's trick. I found about the win /Z parameter. This works on my computer. So ACPI is downcompatible with APM or Win com contains poweroff label for both APM and ACPI.
I back you up on that. It change surface became the main problem with recent nvidia drivers. Try older drivers you'll see they didn't have this kind of consequences. What you wanna do is determine exactly at what point things go wrong? Seems like a good idea. Good luck on that.
Yes Im'm sure. At first you sight win com /z feature yourself so APM shutdown label is really there. Even I saw somewhere patched win com version which didn't shutdown PC. I was trying this: kick up my wins an regenerate win com with simple prog which light keyboard LEDs and then I do1) shutdown - It light up2) reboot to dos - It light up3) resuscitate - It didn't lighten upSomewhrere I readed that on shutdown windows are trying to change by reversal approve to realmode and needs to successfully alter all PM drivers. This is a place where it stucks. When doing just resuscitate it's not necessary reboot is done from PM. I would need some logger which saves as much possible events happening on reboot.
Hi,Since I installed W98SE on new MB with new VGA and drivers I have shutdown problem (as many others) - it hangs on shutting down check or in text check with blinking cursor instead shutdown. In few cases it change surface shutdown properly but it's absolutely random
So I use restart + manual shutdown instead. But for some cases autoshutdown will be good to undergo.
Three or four years ago. I had the same problem. I looked around and finally open a patch for it and here's an updated/expanded (2007) Windows 98 SE shutdown supplement.
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